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It happened again - SP1.4
Nov 26th, 2004 at 5:39pm
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Yesterday yabbforum.com has released another security bugfix release of YaBB, this time it's called SP1.4. The biggest change is that the cookie-based login system has been turned into a session-based one. A complete changelog and the download link can be found here.
  

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Reply #1 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 5:46pm
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and guess what... it's produced even more bugs... w00t!
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 5:48pm
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What do you mean? Are you talking about the "staying logged in" problems?
  

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Reply #3 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 6:10pm
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Yep...
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 10:11pm
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How is that a bug?

Looks more like a side effect of a security feature that affects dialup users and anyone with cheap internet. Wink

When it comes to the session id protection the main thing i'm wondering is whether or not SP1.4 is compatible with password_security_sp1.3.mod.

Ron released a mod in Spetember that does this but I think its not compatible.

mimit wrote on Sep 28th, 2004 at 6:14pm:
Nice mod  Cheesy
Thanks Ron  Wink

Just a question, it is compatyble with the encrypt password mod?

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Mmmm.... don't know I only encrypt the password that is in the cookie different so definitely not.

Anyone know for sure?
  


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Reply #5 - Nov 27th, 2004 at 7:59am
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I have BroadBand... and it still happens to me... ohwell... someone *me* will have to find away to tackle it...

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Reply #6 - Nov 27th, 2004 at 10:31am
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You can still have broadband and have a dynamic IP address.
  


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Reply #7 - Nov 27th, 2004 at 10:50am
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I know that, the problem is that it is just a annoying feature. Which is in SP2 but doesn't have the same problems as SP 1.4.

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Reply #8 - Nov 27th, 2004 at 10:15pm
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Hi
is this for Server Version?

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Re: It happened again - SP1.4
Reply #9 - Dec 1st, 2004 at 9:19am
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I know that this is a security issue...

But are many upgrading??  anyone??

Over at YaBBForums there was a recommendation to
only check the first part of the IP to allow AOL users to stay logged in on each click..  no reply to that yet...

You know I have learned so much from all the people here and
was just wanting to know what most are recommending and what
others are doing...??
  


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Reply #10 - Dec 1st, 2004 at 9:58am
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I have thought about it and am still thinkign about it.  When i actually get around to it will I upgrade?  I don't know.

I like the idea of better security but for alot of people this may be a problem.  Now, when I say alot I mean, there are lots of people ou there who use AOL or similar ISPs.  Most of the people at 3DXL tend to get good internet and dont' have this problem but fo the people who do it's something major.

I had a guy I know who uses AOL goto 3DXL and i checked the server log to see if and when his IP changed.

The 3DXL layout uses lots of small images and a number of files and scripts called via SSI.  For each image and page loaded when going to the sites front page his ip address changed for each of them.

Down the list it was something like...

123.123.23.12
123.123.23.13
123.123.23.10
123.123.25.12
123.123.23.9
123.123.23.11

And so on.

I personally wouldnt' want to keep people from use the forums, then again most 3DXL users have good internet, so I am not sure. Cheesy
  


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Re: It happened again - SP1.4
Reply #11 - Dec 1st, 2004 at 11:32am
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I have not upgraded to 1.4.  I did quite a bit of work upgrading to 1.3.2 and got everything working almost exactly the way I wanted it to.  I'm not all that concerned about the security issues, myself, as I realize that, with the community at which my site is aimed, no amount of security features could really stop hackers if they set their minds to it.  That's why I simply do a back-up of my entire site every day, into alternating directories (so as not to overwrite a good back-up with a possibly bad back-up).  I am really not sure I will be upgrading to 1.4 at all.  Maybe I'll upgrade when 1.4.1 comes out.
  

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Re: It happened again - SP1.4
Reply #12 - Dec 1st, 2004 at 1:28pm
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What's that? Destroying "Always stay logged in" called a good thing?
No way, I won't install this!
How often does it happen that a hacker gets a password through the cookies? Well, staying logged in is much more important than that!
What do I care if somebody knows a password?
No, no. That's just silly.
  
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Re: It happened again - SP1.4
Reply #13 - Dec 2nd, 2004 at 8:36am
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well if someone knows a password from a moderator or an admin he can (and will?) destroy your forum or write things in your name!! I do care!!
If you don't make daily backups you will loose a lot.
Also... are you using your password for other things like your email etc? Then have fun seeing an empty inbox and a lot of spam mails sent by "you"...
Admitted it doesnt happen very often that someone wants to steal your password and knows how. But if you have a dispute with someone it could happen fast.

However this login problem is indeed a serious issue. But it was never planned to work like this... so you can be relatively sure that there will be an update with a fix. AFAIK Admins will still have to login more often but other users not.
  
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Re: It happened again - SP1.4
Reply #14 - Dec 2nd, 2004 at 9:21am
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What about a checkbox so that you can enable or disable that feature?
  
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