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Help Request for Mod Testing
Feb 16th, 2002 at 7:32pm
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Okay, we need:

1) One or more experienced PHP/mySQL programmers with time to help write a review script. See here if you think you're up to it.

2) Reviewers. - Must be experienced or at least comfortable with intermediate Perl and YaBB.

Reply here or contact Omario or michael.
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Re: Help Request for Mod Testing
Reply #1 - Feb 16th, 2002 at 7:35pm
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btw. incase ur too lazy to check our profile's or press the email button in the post here's our emails:

mike: mrtorrent@yahoo.com
me: clickopedia@hotmail.com
  

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Reply #2 - Feb 16th, 2002 at 7:44pm
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DArn, guess im too late.
  


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Reply #3 - Feb 16th, 2002 at 7:46pm
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No, we'll take as many as we can get. Perhaps evaluate people later if it's necessary.
  

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Reply #4 - Feb 16th, 2002 at 10:48pm
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Please note that reviewing isn't an easy job, you should be familiar with mod writing and perl coding!
  

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Reply #5 - Feb 17th, 2002 at 7:58am
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Hey how exactly will this work? Will it be intergrated into the bordmod script for mods you got already, or will it be separate? I'm guessing separate.
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 17th, 2002 at 1:02pm
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It will be replacing the current script. Please see the "Current Development" thread for more information and a layout of the new database.
  

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Reply #7 - Feb 17th, 2002 at 9:16pm
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Check this out, then, and let me know if you think you can help.
  

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Reply #8 - Feb 18th, 2002 at 9:47am
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How exactly will the workload be split? Since it is a lot of work.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 18th, 2002 at 1:13pm
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alienine wrote on Feb 18th, 2002 at 9:47am:
How exactly will the workload be split? Since it is a lot of work.

That's a good question. I think we can pretty much split the work up into:
1) Mod submit page/back end
2) Review page/back end
3) Mod display pages (approved, rejected, enqueue, only minor differences between all of them, shouldn't have to split up any farther).
4) Extra features such as a recognition by cookies, ability to view all mods by a user, mods "Main Page" w/ Top Downloads, New Mods, categories, search, etc.

Does that sound good? Really the only thing that needs to be done is finalizing the database layout and then I can probably start doling out work to whoever wants it.
  

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Reply #10 - Feb 18th, 2002 at 9:24pm
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I'll let you know if we have any little things that need doing. Can you send an e-mail to mrtorrent@yahoo.com with any instant messenger information (ICQ, AIM, MSN, etc)?
  

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Reply #11 - Mar 9th, 2002 at 4:52pm
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i can help with PHP/Mysql
  
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Reply #12 - Mar 17th, 2002 at 7:34am
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I'll review the reviewers. Wink
  

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Reply #13 - Mar 17th, 2002 at 12:33pm
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@BharatPremi: This is Perl bulletin board, so if you want to be reviewing, you have to know Perl. This will hopefully be the system used for YaBB SE as well, however, which is a PHP system...

If you're interested in developing the reviewing system, see here.

@Dave: I've updated the list of team applications here, but it's possible that I've missed someone, so keep your eyes open. Wink If you and XXL would like to start reviewing candidates, that would be great. We can't, after all, accept just anybody.

Edited:
Just wanted to note that we're ALL open to scrutiny, including myself and anyone else who was a driving force behind getting this mod testing going. Of course, I do think I should be in, but that's not up to me. 8)
  

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Re: Help Request for Mod Testing
Reply #14 - Mar 17th, 2002 at 7:27pm
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Because I didnt want to post at the other link, I just figured I'd post this here:

This is on the issue of "biased judging" and just ratings in general.

I read in the other thread someone's idea (cant remember who) of one person installing the mod, then a couple of other people playing with it to test it. Personally, I am against that system a bit. I know I'm not directly involved in any of this, so just take these suggestions for what they're worth; I'm not trying to be a downer or anything.

What I really think would work best is a core group of testers, probably 5-7 people. When mods get submitted, I really think a minimum of three people should test the mod, with a max of probably around five people (any more than that and reviews are just going to get long and drawn out). Testers should have to go through every step themselves, from initial installation to customization to testing the mod out as an admin, moderator, member, guest (should the mod work differently for different user levels). If you aren't comfortable with doing all of that, you aren't really experienced and ready enough to test mods, IMHO. This also provides a greater testing area on different platforms and different users, so you don't have just the installation opinion for one person installing it.

After the installation, I think the rating should be a concensus between all the testers (Id imagine that was the way it was going to be anyway, but Im typing it again just so all my thoughts are layed out and I dont lose anybody). Additional testing, such as compatibility issues, can most likely be handled by one or two individuals, as most mod are written with the idea of (and even used to state) "mod assumes a clean installation of YaBB."

As far as reviews go, take a look at this link:
http://art.counter-strike.net/art.shtml

Don't pay attention to the links without thumbnaiils, but Weeks 10-12 have little "read" links under all the pictures. This is where the reviewers (which happen to be for art, in this case) post their individual thoughts and additional comments. Something like that would be nice on the mod review, so that users could read what mod reviewers actually thought, and could read a variety of comments. That way if John Doe reviewed, say, the email mod, but doesnt need email much, so he wrote a pretty basic review, but Jane Doe uses email ALL the time and really likes it, she could post why she especially likes the mods. It would just help give a very rounded approach to what each tester thought of the mod.

Anyway, those are some of my ideas from now. Just remember, whatever you end up doing, I'll think it's cool. Just wanted to give you guys some ideas and thoughts to brainstorm on. And if you need any help... well, I actually programmed a little PERL last night, so you never know... maybe I'd be able to pitch in sometime.

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